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02 August 2010

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Jimmy

In your ministry,
may the Lord graciously also grant you a few enemies.
Matthew 15
Then the disciples came to him and asked, "Do you know'
that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?"

GadgetVicar

Thanks Jimmy, I find that I have had more than enough enemies down through the years. It's said by some that Paul's 'thorn in the flesh' might have been a person, rather than an ailment, and the Lord used that thorn in Paul's life. We need both friends to help us, and enemies to hone us (and grow love in us!).

ryan


Of course, the thing about church is that it's hard to tell enemies and friends apart ;)

Jimmy

Paul lived such an itinerant life-style I doubt if his 'thorn in the flesh' was a person unless he had a conjoined twin.
Could possibly have been cataracts.
Too many days sitting in the sun making tents.

Billy

Temporal lobe epilepsy is a common theory - would explain his "visions"/ blindness and tempers. Personally, I'm not sure he existed - too many differences in what "he" wrote.

"But friendship works both ways: to have a friend means to be a friend. "

Yet so many christians struggle and not know what they are being "lead to do". Certainly a factor in my rejection of christianity - no dialogue - just frustration at silence leading to the enlightenment of non belief.

The friend analogy fails because you would not stay friends with someone who didn't return your calls or provide comfort/support when needed. Would you stay friends with someone who left you feeling unimportant and rejected? Would you stay friends with someone who created a pathogen, let you become infected by it, could cure it and doesn't? (Hope it clears up BTW) I see alot more people being faithful to "god" than the other way around


When you need support, it is always been people who give it.

Jimmy

Just found your comment.
After reading it twice these verses came to me:

When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. 1 Corinthians 13.

I like - "The enlightenment of non belief"

Billy

Jimmy, your verse reminds me of this quote from Jimmy Carr "When I was a kid, I used to have an imaginary friend. I thought he went everywhere with me. I could talk to him and he could hear me, and he could grant me wishes and stuff too. But then I grew up, and stopped going to church."

I do see things with new wonder now that I don't believe. Life is so much simpler and makes sense too. I would recommend reading Christopher Hitchens on his attitude to his possibly terminal cancer. http://richarddawkins.net/videos/496569-hitchens-on-cancer-diagnosis-why-not-me

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