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30 July 2006

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Bishop David

I agree. And I find that there can be a surprising crispness when the spirit shapes what is extempore - and even if spontaneous, it does come from within a tradition of faith. I listen to a lot of intercessions in different churches - most seem to be read in a way which is indistinguishable from the reading of scripture - at times, they seem to be just lists. My own preference is for short introductions, some meaningful space and prayer for something which is immediate, local and pointed. Me too on having enough of 'just this' and 'just that'

Mike Goss

As someone who rarely prays from written liturgy, I am conscious that my public prayers have their own liturgy. It is difficult not to become repetitive / use jargon, but I also think it is important to keep various elements in most Sunday morning prayers (Adoration, Confession, Intercession, Thanksgiving, etc).
By the way, I have met people who speak to me and use my name every third or fourth word - meant to be 'super-personal' it is only very cringemaking.

Tim

And more agreement. I've just (sorry) got through Brian McLaren's _Generous Orthodoxy_, where he points out that excessive `just's and `Lord's dropped throughout a prayer reduce the valued content in a *similar* way to how one might see repetition of liturgy as devaluing.

A few years ago, a friend joined me in attending one of my previous churches. The intercessions were such, that, when immediately followed by the vicar announcing the news, she whispered rather loudly to me, `I thought that WAS the news already!'. ;)

James Fletcher Baxter

Consider:
The missing element in every human 'solution' is
an accurate definition of the creature.

The way we define 'human' determines our view
of self, others, relationships, institutions, life, and
future. Important? Only the Creator who made us
in His own image is qualified to define us accurately.

Human is earth's Choicemaker. Psalm 25:12 He is by
nature and nature's God a creature of Choice - and of
Criteria. Psalm 119:30,173 His unique and definitive
characteristic is, and of Right ought to be, the natural
foundation of his environments, institutions, and re-
spectful relations to his fellow-man. Thus, he is orien-
ted to a Freedom whose roots are in the Order of the
universe. Selah

- from The HUMAN PARADIGM

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